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  1. A friend from the other side of the world just alerted me to a blog that quoted from this post like this:

    While the Mormons are taking a strong and commendable stand against legalized sodomy, Seventh-day Adventist churches have created their own theory on how to deal with homosexuals. Slowly but surely Seventh-day Adventists have been lowering their stance concerning homosexuality. If a crisis should arise, these Seventh-day Adventists will act as if they were in perfect harmony with the world and were never opposed to homosexuality. They will declare that their churches are a safe haven for “practicing and non-practicing homosexual members.” What a contradiction!

    Inge Anderson wrote an article, which has become the anthem of a large group of Seventh-day Adventists. Anderson stated that “You don’t have to be perfect before God will love you. The Good News is that God loves you just as you are. He loves you just where you are. He would have come to die for just you if you were the only one who needed saving. In fact He went to the trouble of picking a feeble little woman to be spokesperson for Him in order to give you that message. Here it is: ‘Christ would have died for one soul in order that that one might live through the eternal ages. (Ellen White, Testimonies for the Church, Volume 8, page 72). ’”

    Inge Anderson is using crafty language and is twisting the words of God’s messenger, Ellen White, to support her own cause. Yes, Jesus loves everyone. He would have died for just one person to accept Him. However the part that is left out, which is the theme of the gospel, is that Jesus died to save us from our sin—not so that we may continue to sin freely.

    Because Anderson omitted that section of the gospel, she was able to further say, “Not only do you not have to pretend that you are straight. You also don’t have to be straight to be close to God. In case you didn’t know it, it was likely mainly straight people who crucified Christ. So being straight doesn’t get you a lot closer to a real relationship with Jesus. In fact, according to my observation, being homosexually oriented and finally admitting it and turning it over to God gives you an advantage over most of the straight members in your congregation. You see, if you take the route of giving your sexuality to God because there’s nothing much good that you can do with it on your own, you’ll know that you absolutely have to depend on Him in order to make it anywhere. You won’t dare walk alone, but you’ll know He’s always beside you. Right beside you, close enough so you can cling to Him. And cling you must, for dear life, as you know, because otherwise you’ll blow it.”

    In essence what Anderson is saying is, not only is being gay good but that being gay brings one closer to God! There is no scriptural evidence that supports that satanic theory. The Bible states the contrary. “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” Isaiah 8:20. In the book of Romans, Jesus calls homosexuality an abomination! “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;” Romans 1:24-26. Leviticus 18:22 says likewise, “Thou shalt not lie with a mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.” To say that homosexuality brings a person closer to God is implying that the constant thinking about homosexuality and committing those sexual impurities are no longer a sin. “But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid” Galatians 2:17.

    If we do not study for ourselves we will believe erroneous theories like the one previously addressed and will not only support sin, but will also practice it. We must rightly divide the words of truth and show others the correct path to walk on. There is a small group who is still following God’s word. We are to enlist in God’s army and march forward, proclaiming the truth. The spotlight is shining on Seventh-day Adventists. What is the world going to see? (From “Mormon Church Labels Same-sex Couples Apostates! Some Seventh-day Adventists Differ” [This was a working l ink in November 2015, but the post seems to have been removed.]

    I wrote this in reply:

    Dear Maia, I want to commend you on your commitment to biblical truth. I you will add to that a commitment to faithful representation of the views of others, you will be a powerful influence for good.

    Unfortunately, you fell down on the second point in your misrepresentation of my views and the views of subscribers to our support list. The Gladventist view is fairly well known in Adventist circles for its support of biblical sexual standards these are explicitly spelled out at in Options 3 & 4 (celibacy or heterosexual marriage) at “I’m a Gay Adventist – So What Are My Biblical Options?“:

    Options 3 & 4

    A third option involves acknowledgment of one’s homosexual orientation before God and submitting it to Him — in the same manner that heterosexual should submit their sexual desires to Him. In the case of gay people, this can mean a celibate lifestyle which includes emotionally fulfilling relationships with both men and women. But that’s not the only option.

    Gay people on our lists have testified how their sexual compulsions have lessened and taken up less of their emotional and mental energy after they admitted to themselves that, yes, they are gay/homosexually oriented. Then they could turn their attention to ways of living their life to the glory of God instead of spending their energy on denying their orientation. Others have testified how seeking emotionally fulfilling relationships with others of their own gender have nurtured them and normalized their sexual urges so that they have receded into the background, where they belong, rather than being front and center in their lives so as to consume their identity. Seeing attractive men or women as children of God and brothers and sisters in Christ, rather than sex objects, allows them to have a perspective on life that is more like that of God.

    Option 3: Celibacy in the Single Life

    The lives of Jesus, Paul the Apostle, many of the prophets as well as saints of the Christian era demonstrate the lives of rewarding service possible to those who choose celibacy to the glory of God. One thing is sure: Jesus understands those who choose the single, celibate life. He’s been there, done that. And the Apostle Paul went so far as to express the opinion that it would be best for others to be single as he was, if they could. (See 1 Corinthians 7:7,8)

    A life of celibacy need not be a lonely life. It can be full of friends and social and spiritual activities, as some of our members have so clearly demonstrated. It requires the development of a friendly spirit, for he who would have friends must show himself friendly. It requires taking the initiative in making friends and inviting people to your home. That becomes a possibility after you let go of the guilt and shame associated with gay sex and gay fantasies. Freedom in Christ opens many possibilities you have not yet dreamed of.

    Option 4: Heterosexual Marriage

    Others on our lists have demonstrated that it is not necessary to undergo change therapy and develop a heterosexual orientation in order to have a satisfying marriage. It is necessary to be attracted to only one person of the opposite sex in order to have a family after God’s plan. All other sexual attraction needs to be disciplined by both gay and straight people. But there’s a difference in the way gay people and straight people get to the marriage altar.

    Straight relationships often begin with sexual attraction and (hopefully) develop to the place where they include emotional, mental and spiritual attraction and fellowships. (Often they don’t move to that level of true bonding that God intended, and that probably accounts for today’s high divorce rate.) Gay people who marry someone of the opposite sex usually start at the opposite end of the relationship scale. They develop a close friendship with emotional, spiritual and mental bonds before they feel any sort of physical attraction. And that attraction is likely to develop slowly and gently, rather than tempestuously and overwhelmingly. Is that a bad thing? Judging by the divorce rate among those whose relationships began with sexual attraction, I think not. I have seen better gay-straight marriages than the average straight marriage. (However, marriage is not an “answer” to homosexuality. It is an option that needs to be seriously considered and approached with absolute honesty and openness and a willingness to wait for God’s timing.)

    … However, God can and will give wisdom to all who ask Him, as He has promised in James 1:5, “If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all men generously, without finding fault, and it will be given him.”

    The teachings of Christ are full of paradoxes, such as “The first shall be last,” and to die to self is to live eternally. He taught us that to follow Him means committing to a path of self-denial — whether we are gay or straight. “If anyone would be my disciple, let him take up his cross daily and follow me.” (Luke 9:23) This “cross” is often more obvious to the gay Christian than to the heterosexual Christian, and perhaps that’s a good thing because this “cross” cannot be borne alone, and hooking up with Christ is the only way any of us will be saved. He is willing and able to walk with us every step of the way.

    As in all other areas of life, true joy and satisfaction is found only in submission to our infinitely loving Lord who never asks us to do anything that we would not choose for ourselves if we could see the end from the beginning as He sees and discern the glory of His purpose for our lives.

    May He grant each of us the wisdom to live our lives to His glory so that our joy may be full, as He promised!

    If you will read carefully, I call for full surrender to the Lord.

    I would also like to suggest to you, Maia, that if you really want to influence gay people for God, you are more likely to succeed by getting to know them and trying to understand them. That’s what Jesus did. In fact, he lived life among sinners so that He might be able to empathize with them. Have you done the same thing with gay people so that you have any basis to speak to them? They are used to being condemned by those who profess to worship God. They are not used to being loved by people who believe that the biblical standard reserves sex only for those committed to each other in a life-long heterosexual marriage.

    I also note that you have utterly distorted my views in another way: I did not say that practicing gay sex (homosexuality) brings one closer to God. What I did write is that a recognition of one’s need – as gay people committed to Christ will experience – will keep them closer to God. I have seen this over and over again. They know that if they do not stay close to Christ, they will fall, and their “falls” (sexual encounters) are so much more obvious than the falling into pride or gossip.

    I suggest that if you want to quote from a website to support your conclusions, you read more than one post so you can know what that site stands for. It would be humorous that you see us standing for precisely the opposite of what we do stand for if this were not such a serious subject.

    In the post that you quote, I appeal to gay Adventist readers to submit themselves fully to the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I am confident that the Holy Spirit will never lead them in the wrong way. I trust the Holy Spirit, do you?

    It also occurs to me that there are a few things you do not understand about a homosexual orientation. I can’t blame you too much because you are rather young. But that also means that perhaps you should be a little less authoritative in your approach.

    1. Many gay people feel that they were “born” with a same-sex orientation. This is not necessarily so, but it *feels* like that to them because as far back as they can remember, they felt “different” from those around them, and they identified more with the opposite sex. And when they became sexually aware, they were attracted to their own sex. This was/is *not* a choice.
    2. Being homosexually oriented is not the same as being sexually active with a same-sex partner.
    3. It is possible to be homosexually oriented and celibate. But that’s not an easy path.
    4. It is possible to be homosexually oriented and heterosexually married, have children, etc. This means that the gay person has to actively nurture the love relationship with the opposite partner and guard heart, eyes and mind to resist homosexual temptations.
    5. A homosexual orientation is not the same as sexual “lusting.” Lusting means to indulge in sexual fantasies regarding another person. If this were not so, nearly all men would be guilty of lusting every single day of their adult lives. (Another way of saying the same thing is that attraction is not lusting.)
    6. Being “straight” simply means being attracted to the opposite sex. It does not necessarily result in holy living.

    But that’s all that I have time for now. For more, you can check one of our sites – either by clicking on my name and the website to which it is linked or by going to http://glow.cc/. (This is a different website with different content.)

    • Thank you so much for your insights!!! I am a 57-year-old Christian woman who is horrified by the world’s redefinition of marriage, but I have known a number of gay and lesbian people and have thought long and hard about the options open to a homosexual Christian.

      Recently, I have considered the scenario that the apostle Paul might have been a homosexual who begged God three times to take away the thorn in his side. Instead, God replied, “My grace is sufficient for you.” We know that God gave Paul an unsurpassed love for the church, the body of Christ and that his total surrender to his commission changed the world.

      As you say, Christ is the only answer. We are all sinners in need of a Savior. Clinging to Christ has brought me hope, peace, and joy not guilt and despair. Yes, it brings reformation as well and included in that reformation is the realization that God loves me even though I don’t deserve it. Accepting that love results in looking at others through eyes of love and as brothers and sisters in Christ and sinners in need of a Savior just like me.

      God has given you a ministry. And He has given you understanding and a clarity of vision. I will pray for you and your ministry and that God will continue to give you clarity, peace, and joy!

      Your sister in Christ!

  2. What an intelligent, enlightened blessing it is to read this blog by Inge Anderson, which in my opinion is totally right on, realistic and in tune with God’s word. I cannot for the life of me understand the baseless attack by Maia, containing suppositions and false accusations by Maia which are totally groundless. But this is the big problem with some straights who claim to be Christian…they lump orientation together with actual sexual activity, attended of course by their biased assumptions. It seems that the only ‘side’ of this issue acceptable to church going straights is to rid homosexuals of their orientation and implant the straight orientation (somehow) to take its place. I say much luck to that. Following this reasoning it would also make sense to rid straight sinners (which are by far in the majority) of their orientation in order to prevent sins of adultery and fornication. I am getting to be old now, recently re baptized also of a sincere desire to follow the Lord and perfect character in His strength, knowing that a gay orientation has been a constant companion from the first awakening of sexual awareness, but also had ‘straight’ desires early on also, at least enough to father a couple sons and have sex more or less regularly with my wife for perhaps 35 years before medical conditions (hers and mine both) got in the way. I have not had a gay sexual encounter in quite a few years now, and will not by depending on His strength and power, prayer and study of the Word. I am celibate, and still with my wife of over 50 years, and I hid nothing from her. We are best friends in this old world. God bless your organization in the work of spreading the truth about those who struggle, and are filled with needless guilt and self hatred just for ‘being’. An orientation (gay OR straight) is NOT chosen.

  3. Oh dear Lord…thank you for clarity. Inge…ive never heard anyone until now explain my plight. As you wrote I heard my life and struggle and path I’m on today. God has brought me thru thus far and I So love the Lord! I want to do all He bids me to. Living my life on the fence of decision has been cruel for my soul. My spouse Silvia who was raised Catholic has embraced the SDA message. But it has been a very trying for her to see the beauty in our “most precious message” and experience hypocrisy about who is a worse sinner than who. We have been embraced by a pastor and his family at the Arroyo Grande, CA SDA church. We R walking gingerly. We pray that God will use our example of what a gay couple looks like in this welcoming church community. That we are a people that have a sincere desire for the transforming character of Jesus to be wrought in us. We praise God for pastor Josh who is courageous in embracing Silvia and myself. He is setting an example for his flock to love those who are called from the “highways and byways” into the wedding feast.
    Thank you again for your article I will share it with my family and all who will listen. I also pray I can meet more SDA gay Christians in my area where I live. I also would welcome giving bible studies to anyone who wants to hear about the redeeming blood of Jesus and will believe so they too can have peace and live with Jesus for eternity.
    God bless. Denise Herrera

    • Dear Denise,
      I think you “got” my big point – that we are not saved by law keeping or performance of any point. There’s a wonderful freedom in letting go of performance-oriented religion and recognizing that we don’t have to earn God’s love. He already loves us, just as we are. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that He wants us to stay just as we are. If we want to go where Christ is now, we need to follow Him – and that means listening closely to what He has to say to us through His Word, through our mind as we spend time with Him in prayer and study, and through life experiences.

      Christ’s life demonstrates that freedom doesn’t necessarily equate with a life of ease. He died on a cross, after all. And He asks us to carry our cross, if we want to follow Him. (See Mark 8:34) So what does that mean in your life and mine?

      I believe there’s more in the post on this page and the comments than you have seen so far. But that’s okay. Read it again and pray for God’s guidance in your life.

      Just one question to consider, Why do you focus on the gay label? It has a lot of baggage that may not be your baggage.

      May God bless you as you follow Him and seek His will for your lives.

  4. I’m certain , I know that these people who support this immoral lifestyle are not Seventh Day Adventist. God is specific about what He requires from us. He has clearly stated the behavior that His children who are called by His name will exhibit.
    These people have infiltrated the church and have sown seeds of distribution.
    However, God’s church will stand the test. Sometimes Satan will have us believe that the ship is sinking in this storm of immorality . This ship never sink, it will rock in every direction but ‘with Christ in ths vessel, we will smile at the storm.
    I love my Church. This is God’s church, it will prevail. I’m praying that all those who are in this immoral and disgusting life style will repent before the day of burning comes.


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